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OT: Usenet to Be Shut Down

by phorbin <phorbin1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 14, 2008 at 08:34 AM

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html?tag=nefd.lede

N.Y. attorney general forces ISPs to curb Usenet access
Posted by Declan McCullagh 54 comments

New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo announced on Tuesday that Verizon 
Communications, Time Warner Cable, and Sprint would "shut down major 
sources of online child ****ography."

What Cuomo didn't say is that his agreement with broadband providers 
means that they will broadly curb customers' access to Usenet--the 
venerable pre-Web home of some 100,000 discussion groups, only a handful 
of which contain illegal material.

Time Warner Cable said it will cease to offer customers access to any 
Usenet newsgroups, a decision that will affect customers nationwide. 
Sprint said it would no longer offer any of the tens of thousands of 
alt.* Usenet newsgroups. Verizon's plan is to eliminate some "fairly 
broad newsgroup areas."

It's not quite the death of Usenet (which has been predicted, 
incorrectly, countless times). But if a politician can pressure three of 
the largest Internet providers into censorial acquiescence, it may only 
be a matter of time before smaller ones like Supernews, Giganews, and 
Usenet.com feel the squeeze.

Cuomo's office said it had "reviewed millions of pictures over several 
months" and found only "88 different newsgroups" containing child 
****ography.

"We are attacking this problem by working with Internet service 
providers to ensure they do not play host to this immoral business," 
Cuomo said in a statement released after a press conference in New York. 
"I call on all Internet service providers to follow their example and 
help deter the spread of online child ****."

That amounts to an odd claim: stopping the spread of child **** on a 
total of 88 newsgroups necessarily means coercing broadband providers to 
pull the plug on thousands of innocuous ones. Usenet's sprawling set of 
hierarchically arranged discussion areas include ones that go by names 
like sci.math, rec.motorcycles, and comp.os.linux.admin. It has been 
partially succeeded by mailing lists, message boards, and blogs; AOL 
stopped carrying Usenet in 2005, but AT&T still does.

Many of Usenet's discussion groups are scarcely different from 
discussions you might find on the Web at, say, Yahoo Groups. Because 
there's no central authority, however--Usenet servers exchange messages 
in a cooperative, peer-to-peer manner--politicians are more likely to 
look askance at the concept. (For that matter, so is the Recording 
Industry Association of America.)

It's true that of the three broadband providers Cuomo singled out, only 
Time Warner Cable will cease to offer Usenet. Sprint is cutting off the 
alt.* hierarchy, Usenet's largest, which will primarily affect its 
business customers. A Verizon spokesman said he didn't know details, 
saying "newsgroups that deal with scientific endeavors" will stick 
around but admitted that all of the alt.* hierarchy could be toast.

Yet Usenet's sprawling alt.* hierarchy contains tens of thousands of 
discussion groups--one count says there are 18,408 of them--including 
alt.adoption, alt.atheism, alt.gothic, and alt.tv.simpsons. Ditching all 
of those means eliminating perfectly legitimate conversations.

"The Internet service providers should not be blocking whole sections of 
the Internet, all Usenet groups, because there may be some illegal 
material buried somewhere," said Barry Steinhardt, director of the 
ACLU's technology and liberty program. "That's taking a sledgehammer to 
an ant."

For their part, the three broadband providers that Cuomo singled out on 
Tuesday said that it makes sense for them to curb Usenet.

"We're going to stop offering our subscribers newsgroups," said Alex 
Dudley, a spokesman for Time Warner Cable. "Some of the early press on 
this indicated we were going to block certain Web sites. We're not going 
to do that."

That was a reference to a New York Times article with the headline: "Net 
Providers to Block Sites With Child ***." It said "the providers will 
also cut off access to Web sites that traffic in child ****ography."

That is common practice in some countries. The French government and 
broadband providers have re****tedly inked a deal to block Web sites with 
child ****, terrorist, and hate speech, for instance.

What Time Warner Cable will do, Dudley said, is remove illegal content 
on its network when alerted by the National Center for Missing and 
Exploited Children. (This is already required by law, has been standard 
business practice for many years, and is not a change in policy.)

Verizon spokesman Eric Rabe said much the same thing: "We're not 
blocking any access to Web sites."

In the United States, the idea of blocking Web sites is not new. The 
state of Pennsylvania came up with that idea five years ago, and 
Internet providers took issue with it through a lawsuit filed by the 
American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Democracy and 
Technology.

The Pennsylvania statute said "an Internet service provider shall remove 
or disable access to child ****ography...accessible through its 
service" 
within five business days after the attorney general notified them of 
its existence.

A federal judge in Philadelphia overturned that law on First Amendment 
grounds, ruling that it constituted a "prior restraint on protected 
expression" and that its "extraterritorial effect violates the dormant 
Commerce Clause" of the U.S. Constitution.

New York's attorney general surely knows about that precedent. That is 
probably why he settled for strong-arming broadband providers into 
curbing Usenet--perhaps with the threat of a press conference that would 
all but accuse the providers of trafficking in child ****--instead of 
the far more difficult process of defending a law requiring them to curb 
Usenet.
 




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